On July 16, 2014 at 19:31, SysIntegration said...
Well, if you really want to argue it, I would say TV to most people would be any device of that nature that produces an image from a source. I never though of projos as independent (in regards to code searches) until the independent category came in.
Well, first, URC professionals provide products to professionals and therefore should not be using category names designed to be understood by the uninformed. We understand that the
primary purpose of a TV is to tune in and display TV stations, while the primary purpose of a projector is NOT to tune in stations, thus separating them from TVs, but to display information presented to it in various video formats. In addition, you can watch a TV on a desk, but you can't take it away and place a projector on that desk and watch it; it's a different type of product in purpose and means of use.
I've thought of projectors as independent since way before I lifted my first Sony G90 up to the ceiling. The Vidikrons I installed also just didn't seem to me to be in the same category
at all as the 13" TV with rabbit ears sitting on the second desk in the home office.
In fact, if you want to go back to categories that "most people" would think of, then projectors have ALWAYS been different from TVs; think slide projectors, movie (film) projectors... now add video projectors. They are simply not televisions.
I guess I just used my critical thinking to figure it out.
I must admit I couldn't work that one out for myself!
Of all the things one could gripe about the URC software, I find it amusing that this is your ploy.
My plo
y? "A cunning plan or action designed to turn a situation to one's own advantage"? No, I just wanted to know where the hell the projector files were.That was just the problem in front of me, stopping me at that moment. You imply that I shouldn't ask about projector files because there are other dumb things about the URC software.
If you really want to wrap your head around their logic, trying searching for an LG LHB335 HTIB. I would look under receiver, but you won't find it there because it has a DVD player. So now we look in the DVD section.
So, yes, it makes sense that I should ask about this, because as you know, their categorization sometimes makes no sense. I also find very little explanation or guide as to how to use their stuff. It's as though it's a secret, even from us.
Or look at the section for WebTV and try to remember how many webTV boxes you can remember other than the RCA.
I have thought for years that this category is ridiculous. As soon as other products with the
primary function of getting information from the internet appeared, this category should have been converted to, say, "network devices." All streaming boxes (but not DVD players or A/V receivers that can connect, but whose main purpose is
not getting content from the internet) would go there.
Maybe Harmony is more your speed. I mean, if you are going to really nitpick, why have a DVD section, when you need a separate DVD and Bluray section. I mean, why even have to think for yourself at all. :-)
I think for myself. I can't think for them, though, except to make these suggestions when the problems come up.
And anything that doesn't fit into any other category should go in AUX?
Roku is in AUX. It should be with WebTV in "Network Devices." AUX was a bad title because it says nothing and thus admits anything.
On the other hand, having lots of categories doesn't always solve the problems. Look at the RTI database. There are TVs with Plasma TVs and LED TVs and LCD TVs as subcategories, and then there are main categories named Plasma TVs and LCD TVs. A difference there, though, is that the categories assigned to different products are assigned by the installers who create those files. URC control what goes where and thus could be consistent and accurate.
Question. If you are URC dealer, why have you just now downloaded the software and are learning it? That seems a little suspect....
You apparently did not read everything that you are commenting on, and I didn't even say that in this thread. I find that a bit suspect! I already wrote that this is the first URC remote I've programmed since getting this new laptop with Windows 7.
Here are the details from that other thread:
On July 16, 2014 at 02:36, Ernie Gilman said...
First, it might not sound like it, but I've successfully done URC programming before, but it's been a while. I'm using a ThinkPad with Windows 7, but this is the first time I've used CCP on it.
I see I did not say it was a new laptop. My bad, but no need for this discussion. I said that this is the first time I've used CCP on this computer, giving you no information as to when was the last time I used CCP, nor how long I've had this computer.
I may have connected the remote to the computer before installing CCP.
Yup, CCP was not always installed on my computer but also does not say it's a new computer. Was CCP always installed on your computer? I mean, when you got it?
You did indeed think for yourself. You came to the wrong conclusions. I find that it is, however, easy to overlook such obvious things as "it's a new computer" or "I haven't programmed any URC products since I got this computer."
Last edited by Ernie Gilman on July 17, 2014 13:13.
