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URC MRX-2: Can it be used alongside an MSC-400?
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Post 1 made on Tuesday June 24, 2014 at 15:59
John Klimek
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I'm currently using an MSC-400 with a bunch of MX-880 and MX-980 remote controls.

I'd like to add some IP control to my system so I'm investigating the MRX-2 (or MRX-1) unit. Can they be added alongside the MSC-400?

Basically I'd like to send everything to the MSC-400, except use the MRX-2 to send some custom TCP and UDP commands to IP devices on my network.
Post 2 made on Tuesday June 24, 2014 at 23:32
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The MRX2/MRX1 can be used along side an MSC400, but not with the remotes you are currently using. They are not capable of sending IP commands.

The MRX2/MRX1 can be used with the following CCP (complete control) line of remotes:

Hand held: MX5000 or MX6000
Touch panel: KP4000
iOS or Android App

The only option out of those I would personally recommend is the iOS or Android app.

The MRX2 can also be used will URC's Total Control line of products, which I would strongly recommend.
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Post 3 made on Tuesday June 24, 2014 at 23:46
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The MRX1/2 can be used with any of the CCP remotes. It just cannot send IP commands via remotes other than the ones you mentioned. Add a RFX250 and it works just like a MRF350
OP | Post 4 made on Wednesday July 16, 2014 at 12:58
John Klimek
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Thanks everybody.

I guess I'll need to keep using my RS-232 to IP computer... (i.e. a PC listening to RS232 serial port and then sending received commands to IP)
Post 5 made on Wednesday July 16, 2014 at 13:10
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John, I think you are ready for a URC 2-way remote!
Post 6 made on Thursday July 17, 2014 at 23:46
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On July 16, 2014 at 12:58, John Klimek said...
Thanks everybody.

I guess I'll need to keep using my RS-232 to IP computer... (i.e. a PC listening to RS232 serial port and then sending received commands to IP)

That is a curious work around....

Talk to me about your setup.
What program are you using for listening/sending? Does your PC have a serial input? What kind of IP Commands are you sending? I would love to be able to play with something like this.
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Post 7 made on Friday December 5, 2014 at 06:27
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On July 17, 2014 at 23:46, SysIntegration said...
That is a curious work around....

Talk to me about your setup.
What program are you using for listening/sending? Does your PC have a serial input? What kind of IP Commands are you sending? I would love to be able to play with something like this.

I too am curious about how this is done. I'm working on a PC solution to monitor the state of various components / events and execute certain commands via Homeseer. I also just got my MSC-400, and was looking for a way to use it to connect to the few IP devices I have, rather than invest in a MRX1/2.
OP | Post 8 made on Friday April 3, 2015 at 09:27
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Hey guys... I'm sorry for the (VERY) late reply, but I was just looking at this forum and saw your questions.

My workaround is that I define a RS232 device on the MSC400. Let's say it's called "PC Controller". On that device, I define functions that send ASCII commands like "AVR_VOLUP", "AVR_VOLDOWN", etc. I can use the same RS232 device for multiple devices as well by just changing the ASCII command (i.e. "HDMIMATRIX_PORT1", "AVR_VOLUP", "UPSTAIRS_LIGHTSON")

The PC (connected using RS232) receives the command and then transmits a new command using TCP/IP to whatever device I want.

The flow is like this:

1) MX-880 presses button.
2) MSC-400 receives RF signal.
3) MSC-400 transmits command to PC using RS-232.
4) PC receives command and transmits new command using TCP/IP.
4a) The PC actually parses the ASCII command (i.e. "AVR_VOLUP") so it knows which device to send to (i.e. "AVR") and what command (i.e." VOLUP").

I am really, really disappointed that URC didn't come out with any new products that incorporate this type of relay system. I completely understand why ($$$) but it's unfortunate for people with legacy equipment.
Post 9 made on Friday April 3, 2015 at 15:19
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On April 3, 2015 at 09:27, John Klimek said...
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I am really, really disappointed that URC didn't come out with any new products that incorporate this type of relay system. I completely understand why ($$$) but it's unfortunate for people with legacy equipment.

I don't think you understand the design and application of the MSC400 or the MRX2.
Post 10 made on Wednesday April 8, 2015 at 10:03
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The MSC-400 is one of the best products that was never fully realized by URC. The power to send a trigger command from any remote, then output whatever the MSC was capable of is a fantastic concept (which Crestron and RTI have been utilizing for a while now). It would just be nice to see URC have something that works as intelligently and with as much flexibility. Ultimately, it has potential to solve a lot of issues.


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Post 11 made on Wednesday April 8, 2015 at 11:42
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On April 8, 2015 at 10:03, Control Remotes said...
The MSC-400 is one of the best products that was never fully realized by URC. The power to send a trigger command from any remote, then output whatever the MSC was capable of is a fantastic concept (which Crestron and RTI have been utilizing for a while now). It would just be nice to see URC have something that works as intelligently and with as much flexibility. Ultimately, it has potential to solve a lot of issues.

Damon

Well. that's what it's problem was. If the MSC400 does things that a more expensive or Crestron solution would do, which would you sell as a company (hint: it rhymes with Creston and RTI...)

The MSC was like putting 19" wheels on a Honda Civic.
Post 12 made on Wednesday April 8, 2015 at 11:48
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Lowhz,

Well, being backward compatible, as well as capable of connecting to future remotes would have been intelligent design. The problem as I see it with the MSC is that they never really supported it properly, which may have been intentional, if they realized it wasn't suitable beyond a certain life span, but many URC products have lasted well over 10 years as current products. Look at the MX-850, MX-900 and MRF-350.

Oh well.



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Post 13 made on Sunday June 25, 2017 at 03:29
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On April 8, 2015 at 10:03, Control Remotes said...
The MSC-400 is one of the best products that was never fully realized by URC. The power to send a trigger command from any remote, then output whatever the MSC was capable of is a fantastic concept (which Crestron and RTI have been utilizing for a while now). It would just be nice to see URC have something that works as intelligently and with as much flexibility. Ultimately, it has potential to solve a lot of issues.

Damon

Will it work with my MX-990? Have some very long and complicated RF macros that are not always stable when using my MX-990 with my old mrf-250, and thought that storing my macros in the MSC-400 would make life easier? :-)


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