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CCP Pros, do you use the green power on button?
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Post 1 made on Monday July 29, 2013 at 15:40
OneRemote
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Couple of questions for the pros on here:

1) Do you guys actually use the green power on button on your remotes for anything or do you just have the customer directly choose their activity from the screen buttons? I currently have my mx-890 and mx-780 going directly from the screen but am wondering if I'm not doing it according to a best-use scenario by bypassing the green power button.

2) When you program your remotes for the customer to switch activities (i.e. transitioning from watching blu-ray to watching cable tv) do you turn off the devices that are no longer being used similar to how Harmony remotes do it, or do you just keep everything turned on until the user hits the red power off button and only then turn all devices off?

I had a bad experience with the guy I paid $300 to program my first remote and ended up having to learn how to do it myself but was just wondering about these questions. When I asked the CI about turning devices off that were no longer being used when switching activities he said that was way too much work to program. Wanted to know if that's the general consensus or not.

Thanks!
Post 2 made on Monday July 29, 2013 at 17:24
KRAZYK
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OneRemote

There isn't a perfect solution when it comes to powering on devices, especially devices without discrete on/off codes. Using tracking variables for power status can get out of sync if a power failure occurs or someone presses the power directly from the device.

The only sure way to track power is to use a processor that has power sensing or video sensing capabilities like the MSC400, MX-1, MRX-10.

- Some CI's tend to turn everything on with the green power button or first activity button press. Easy and reliable!
-Some CI's leave devices like cable boxes on 24/7 again to avoid service calls.
-Some will turn on each device as required, then turn everything off with the "off button". Requires discrete on/off codes or power sensing.
-Some CI's will turn off each device when not in use if they have the proper equipment. Good for the planet!!!!!

I personally turn each device "on" as needed.
For example pressing watch cable only turns on the devices associated with that activity. It may be all I want to do that evening why turn everything else on?
Then if I switch to the Xbox-360 activity it will power on the X-box 360 leaving the cable box on.
I found this to be the best scenario for me because it only has the initial delay the first time the device is powered on. Switching between activities already "on" speeds up the macro. I sometimes switch between say gaming and watching a live sporting event. I also use power sensing in my setup to accomplish this.

When I am finished watching, pressing the "power off button" sends me to a power off page which has different power off options.I do this for two reasons.

1)It avoids shutting everything down by accident and having to wait for my projector, TV or AVR to restart.
2)It also gives me the option to turn off my projector, TV or a complete system shutdown. A system shutdown in my case turns off every device........

I think the correct answer to your question is, "what is best for you and your needs!"
There is no right answer!!!!
KRAZYK

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Post 3 made on Monday July 29, 2013 at 18:25
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On a related note...
I will always find out what the most common activity is that the user will choose in cases where the whole system is powered off. When creating the macro for powering the system off I'll then first send the codes setting the display, receiver and any other switch gear to the proper source selects for that activity followed by powering everything off that way the system 9 times out of 10 is already in the proper state short of powering things on when the user goes to start things up. Certainly can't hurt regardless of how reliable the remote control solution may be and if anything else can serve to decrease that initial start-up time in cases for instance where the display may need to be on for so many seconds before it will accept a command for changing to the correct input.
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Post 4 made on Monday July 29, 2013 at 20:02
KRAZYK
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On July 29, 2013 at 18:25, Lowpro said...
On a related note...
I will always find out what the most common activity is that the user will choose in cases where the whole system is powered off. When creating the macro for powering the system off I'll then first send the codes setting the display, receiver and any other switch gear to the proper source selects for that activity followed by powering everything off that way the system 9 times out of 10 is already in the proper state short of powering things on when the user goes to start things up. Certainly can't hurt regardless of how reliable the remote control solution may be and if anything else can serve to decrease that initial start-up time in cases for instance where the display may need to be on for so many seconds before it will accept a command for changing to the correct input.

+1
KRAZYK

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