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How to make button sends faster?
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Post 1 made on Saturday July 27, 2013 at 17:37
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I really like my MX-5000, but I don't like how slow the button presses are. For example, with my old URC remote I could hit the skip ahead button (DirecTV) really fast 6 times and it would normally skip ahead past the commercials. With the MX-5000 I have to wait a second before I push the button again or it doesn't send. It basically is slow at sending fast button presses and misses some. I know there has to be a way to speed this up in the CCP software, but I'm not sure where that's done. I disabled wifi, which helped some, but it's still not fast enough.

Anyone?
Post 2 made on Monday July 29, 2013 at 04:14
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 Is it single step function or multiple 'macro'?
What's your repeat and delay set to?
Have you tried to use OEM remote to perform this function? Some DTV boxes are slow and sluggish, no matter who's remote you're using.
OP | Post 3 made on Monday July 29, 2013 at 08:56
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Hi Mario- It's a single step function. It's simply the 30 second skip forward button that causes the most headache. With my old remote I could simply hit that button 6 times as fast as I could and all 6 button presses were sent and registered by the DVR. The MX-5000 needs about 3/4 of a second pause in between button presses or it will miss some of the button hits. The battery was low on the MX-5000 so I grabbed the old remote and didn't have any problems with missing button presses, so it's not the DVR or anything else in the setup. There's something with this remote that is sending slow button presses and I'd love to figure out how to resolve this.

The repeat is set to 3 and the CCP software will not let me change this (greyed out) and the delay is set to 1. I tried using different delay settings, but nothing seems to change when doing so.

I do have a RF blaster that's being used because the equipment is in another room, but it works fine with the older URC remote, so I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with it, unless the MX-5000 simply can't send fast commands over RF. That would be shocking since an older, less expensive URC remote can do it just fine.

I appreciate your response and look forward to any suggestions you may have.

Thanks!
Post 4 made on Tuesday July 30, 2013 at 20:57
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There is a way to adjust the repeats you just need to uncheck a box to adjust it. Select the skip ahead button in the macro window. Then left double click on the command to bring the IR stating window up again. Then unselect the checkmark next to "repeat while button is pressed". Now you will be able to adjust the number of repeats in the two sections above.

As far as the blaster goes I'm sorry but I am not a fan of blasting anything. We have a company rule that I came up with no blasting Inder any circumstance. It's a service call waiting to happen. I would invest in another rf base station if you want it to be more reliable.
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Post 5 made on Tuesday July 30, 2013 at 21:00
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One other thing. I would also suggest using a mrf350, mrx1, or msc400 with the mx5000. If you have a different base station especially if its older one you are going to run into problems.
Matt Brotzge
Post 6 made on Wednesday July 31, 2013 at 13:38
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Matt gave good advice above. I believe all URC remotes have a .3 second delay built into every code. It may be a .3 second delay built into macros though and not each individual code. I forget but someone, ahem, Brady, can answer this for sure.
OP | Post 7 made on Wednesday July 31, 2013 at 14:14
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On July 30, 2013 at 20:57, MattBrotzge said...
There is a way to adjust the repeats you just need to uncheck a box to adjust it. Select the skip ahead button in the macro window. Then left double click on the command to bring the IR stating window up again. Then unselect the checkmark next to "repeat while button is pressed". Now you will be able to adjust the number of repeats in the two sections above.

As far as the blaster goes I'm sorry but I am not a fan of blasting anything. We have a company rule that I came up with no blasting Inder any circumstance. It's a service call waiting to happen. I would invest in another rf base station if you want it to be more reliable.

You sir are a life saver! That did the trick! That was the one and only thing that annoyed me about this remote. I've had the remote for over a year now and am so glad that is now resolved.

I do have an older URC RF box, so I'm curious what about that you do not like. I've used that same box with my last 4 or 5 URC remotes and it's always worked perfectly. Obviously I cannot assign individual RF ports to specific devices, which is why I have to use it as a full RF blaster, but it's worked beautifully for years now. I have been thinking of upgrading it though, so I'd love to hear your thoughts on why using an older RF box is not a good idea.

Thanks again for the tip!!!
OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday July 31, 2013 at 14:19
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On July 31, 2013 at 13:38, goldenzrule said...
Matt gave good advice above. I believe all URC remotes have a .3 second delay built into every code. It may be a .3 second delay built into macros though and not each individual code. I forget but someone, ahem, Brady, can answer this for sure.

Thanks for the comment! Apparently it is a .3 second delay built into every code, not just macros, because that totally resolved my issue.

There were actually two things that annoyed me with this remote and they were both related to this delay. The only time it's ever a problem is when skipping forward and back on my DVR box and through the guide. It was just very sluggish. The one that really bothered me was the skip buttons. Those are now fixed thank God! The guide, or directional, buttons I don't think I can fix. I can do the same thing with those buttons, but that will disable the "hold" on the buttons so I wouldn't be able to hold down the button to run through the guide quickly. I don't think there's anything I can do about that, so I'll deal with the delay there. I'm just glad the skip buttons are working the way I wanted now.
Post 9 made on Wednesday July 31, 2013 at 21:51
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Happy to hear the older rf base station has worked for you so well over the years, but the new ones are a lot more reliable. Especially if you have an mrf250, there are a lot of guys on this website that are not big fans of that piece.

The newer base stations use a different antenna which has a narrower rf band. It is a lot less prone to rf interference and is much more reliable. They also have buffered ir outputs on all of their newer rf base stations. Which means if you have a piece of equipment with an ir input you can jack a cable directly into the device. Which is much more reliable than using an ir emitter, plus it will never fall off like the emitters tend to do.

The lowest priced model we use is the MRF350. Not a fan of the MRF260. The reason we like it is because it has a separate antenna which can be moved away from the equipment to reduce rf interference and because it can be extended via a cat5 wire so that the signal is closer to where the remote will be used.

The MRX1 adds the ability to control equipment over Wi-Fi. And control equipment using IP or RS232 commands. My experience using the MX5000 in this way has been more negative than positive its been a little buggy. I use their TC line of products on projects like these. On the other hand they now have an iPad/iPhone app available for the MRX1 that can be used in addition to their handheld remotes.

My favorite rf piece for the MX5000 is the MSC400. This isn't really a base station its a remote control processor. It uses something called trigger commands for all of the macros. For ex when you hit the cable TV macro you might be sending 10 commands to an rf base station. With the MSC400 you are sending one command. The processor then sends those 10 commands to the equipment. This is because all of the macros are stored on the msc400 not the remote. The MSC400 also has RS232, voltage and video sensors, relays, etc.. It is a little more complicated to program, but once you get e hang of it its fairly simple. The only downside to this piece is that it has been around for awhile and doesn't have the option for IP control, control over Wi-Fi, or the ability to use and iPad/iPhone to control the system. It can also be a pain in the ass to connect to depending on what version of windows you are running.

If I had to guess I would say that the MRF350 is probably the option that makes the most sense for you.
Matt Brotzge
Post 10 made on Saturday October 12, 2013 at 18:52
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On July 31, 2013 at 14:14, Jestered said...
You sir are a life saver! That did the trick! That was the one and only thing that annoyed me about this remote. I've had the remote for over a year now and am so glad that is now resolved.

I do have an older URC RF box, so I'm curious what about that you do not like. I've used that same box with my last 4 or 5 URC remotes and it's always worked perfectly. Obviously I cannot assign individual RF ports to specific devices, which is why I have to use it as a full RF blaster, but it's worked beautifully for years now. I have been thinking of upgrading it though, so I'd love to hear your thoughts on why using an older RF box is not a good idea.

Thanks again for the tip!!!

I'm having the same problem..

MX-5000 executes slow FF and REW on an at&t Uverse DVR. My old pos MX-810 did it perfectly. I could hit FF 4 times and it registered 4 button presses.
My $1000 MX-5000 can't???

Jestered; Did you uncheck the repeat box and then change the repeat value to 1? I've tried that on FF and REW and it still is slow. The strange thing is that when I do it on IR it works fine, but RF is slow... too slow.


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