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Can I use the DMS-1200 as a standalone IR controlled amp??
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Post 16 made on Monday August 25, 2014 at 15:22
Lynden63
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Duct Tape, do you still have that file for your DMS100 setup?
Im trying to do the same thing but I am somehow not able to download to the DMS100.
I am only using one amp so far but will be adding a couple more once I get things working properly.
Post 17 made on Monday August 25, 2014 at 15:51
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On August 25, 2014 at 15:22, Lynden63 said...
Duct Tape, do you still have that file for your DMS100 setup?
Im trying to do the same thing but I am somehow not able to download to the DMS100.
I am only using one amp so far but will be adding a couple more once I get things working properly.

i posted it in my response to your previous post.  go back a few posts and you will find it.
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Post 18 made on Monday August 25, 2014 at 18:47
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On August 25, 2014 at 11:34, Duct Tape said...
if you did that, you should be able to download to it.  my file will end up having different mac addresses, so that won't help you.

This is probably a dumb question, but does the software allow you to edit the MAC address? So, for instance, you yourself could take the file that you make and use it, or use it as a thorough starting point, on two devices? Or do you have to program identical devices on a system, using identical controls, both from scratch?
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 19 made on Monday August 25, 2014 at 19:08
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You could take my file, discover the dms100 on the network, and assign it to the dms100 in my file. You would also need to edit the network details in my file to match your details. Then download to the dms100 amp.The whole process takes about 3 minutes to build the file from scratch.
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Post 20 made on Monday August 25, 2014 at 20:06
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Sorry Duct, don't mean to jump in here, but if you want to use any of the DMS amps separate from the existing network you can:
1- Use a MFS switch from URC if it is connected to the existing network
or
2- set it up with a stand alone router (not a separate switch)

The DMS needs an IP address to work/program.
I found this out the hard way when trying to do this for the first time a couple of years ago. Customer had an old D-Link router not being used. Set up the system with the D-Link (No WAN connection needed).
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Post 21 made on Monday August 25, 2014 at 21:16
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That's correct. I guess I forgot to mention that detail. You need a router to assign it a dhcp address, then you can program a static IP and move it to a stand alone switch. Sorry if I confused anyone by leaving that part out.I have been using mfs8 switches for our recent installs, so I forgot about the need for a dhcp server.
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Post 22 made on Monday August 25, 2014 at 22:51
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I have done all the steps and have assigned the DMS a static ip address.. So it's there... One other thing that has me stuck is the firmware version.... It has 1.35.03.00, but there is a new firmware update...1.39.00.00 ..I can't seem to update to that either.
I just tried your file and set the IP address and MAC address for my DMS and still got a "fail" pop up from the program. I get. 10% total progress then it stops....
Post 23 made on Monday August 25, 2014 at 23:11
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Make sure you have the network connection set as home or work, and not public. Also disable any unused network connections. I find that it is better to be wired to the network when loading files. The firmware updates when you successfully load a file to the dms100
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Post 24 made on Tuesday August 26, 2014 at 06:39
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Also temporarily turn off your antivirus software
If the firewall and antivirus is not turned off, I get the same message
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Post 25 made on Wednesday August 27, 2014 at 22:44
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Duct Tape and Darcon, thanks for all the help. I finally got things set up using an old Windows XP laptop that I had put away. My main computer is a Macbook Pro that I dual boot with Mountain Lion and Windows 7. I don't know if the problem is with Windows 7 or the latest Java thats installed.
I have no problem with the CCP program or the MX850 program on my MBP tho.
Post 26 made on Friday August 29, 2014 at 20:04
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On August 25, 2014 at 22:51, Lynden63 said...
I have done all the steps and have assigned the DMS a static ip address.. So it's there... One other thing that has me stuck is the firmware version.... It has 1.35.03.00, but there is a new firmware update...1.39.00.00 ..I can't seem to update to that either.
I just tried your file and set the IP address and MAC address for my DMS and still got a "fail" pop up from the program. I get. 10% total progress then it stops....

Definitely sounds like a computer network issue. Sounds like windows firewall is blocking your exit out or another firewall/anti virus program, especially if you are getting the freeze at 10%.
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Post 27 made on Saturday August 30, 2014 at 01:45
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I have the firewall and antivirus programs turned off on the Windows 7 computer…. Windows XP turned off the same anti-virus and firewall.. but it worked! still have to change some settings in Windows 7.. will post my results..
Post 28 made on Saturday August 30, 2014 at 09:28
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Sometimes disabling any unused network adapters will help. (Oops...I guess I already said that.)
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Post 29 made on Saturday August 30, 2014 at 12:22
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On August 30, 2014 at 09:28, Duct Tape said...
Sometimes disabling any unused network adapters will help. (Oops...I guess I already said that.)

I am hesitant to say this, but I don't think |_|RC wants people to use the dms-1200 as a stand alone IR piece. I have tried to do it using CCP, and found it quite difficult. I finally got it working, but because of the lack of OSD or any type of indicator lights, I had to do a lot of guess work on the delay between commands in my macro on the DMS. I never really knew it was working or received the command until I heard some sounds. Then there is the whole question of which random stream the dms has decided to apply to each input, extra compounded if you have an SNP and/or you have used the DMS as part of a TC system before. That's not to mention all of the crazy things you have to do just to keep it is its own subnet (without having TC) just so the UDP streams don't clog up your own network.

I feel like there are a lot of other cheaper solutions to a six zone amplifier other than a stand alone DMS-1200 (without TC) that are more flexible and easier to integrate. The D661 quickly comes to mind. That and how do you troubleshoot the DMS-1200 as a stand alone unit other than this forum and a modicum of assistance over at the official forum?
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Post 30 made on Saturday August 30, 2014 at 12:55
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The streams are all listed in the macro editing in accelerator. We don't usually use the dms1200...but we do use the dms100 to replace Bose zone amps in each room on our yachts. It makes for a very simple replacement. We use a dms100 or two at the main rack to distribute audio sources to the rooms. You can't easily do what we are doing with any other amp that I can think of without pulling a bunch of wires.It is a moot point for us though since we have begun to switch over to total control anyway.
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