I have just installed a Spacer 5WC contoller and 3 switches in a single gang box and all works with the lutron remote when pointed at the switches and also if I point to the IR system in my rack which has one extended IR emitter mounted into the 5WC and another into the other end of the gang box furthest away from the 5WC.

However, when I teach those codes to my MX 900 the switch furthest from the 5WC does not respond when I point to the rack system but all switches work when I point the mx at the switches.

Any help on this is much appreciated. I also tried codes from the mx library and about every way I read to teach the codes differently from the Lutron remote to the mx. Doesn't mean I didn't miss one though.

I had this same trouble with the original remote at first when I had both IR emitters in the 5WC so I moved one to the other end of the gang box. I don't know if the result was conicidental or cause and effect but it did the trick.

Thanks
Rick

Contact Lutron, but I think you need to program the Spacer 5WC for this configuration. It's been some time, but ran into this problem a few years back.

The IR database code for Spacer is Light 309, in case you are interested.

Also, for what it's worth, the IR output from URC tends to be very high. Could IR oversaturation be causing the issue?



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I don't know about IR oversaturation or how to deal with it. Can you elaborate? I have used the 309 codes also. When pointed at the switches they work, when at the IR system, same problems.

Odd thing is that I am getting irregular results only with the MX remote and only with one of the switches and only when pointng the MX remote at the AV receiver. I think I have it solved (move emitters and switches around) but then I come back later and it is unresolved once more. Same remote, same room, same codes and lighting. Just that one of the swithches (same one) wont' work consistantly.

So why won't the MX duplicate the codes from the Lutron IR ? I did try different repeats from 1 to 10.

The lutron remote works the switches flawlessly when directed at the switches and also at the AV rack IR system. The MX works perfectly only when pointed at the switches but goofs up when going through the IR repeater system in the AV rack system. I have used taught in commands and those from the IR data base, both with the same results.

Try moving the IR emitter further away from the switch in question. It could be sending too much IR to the sensor, causing oversaturation. The IR output of the MX-900 remote is very powerful.

Let me know if that does the trick.



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I'll try moving emitters around again. It's the only option I guess. I

Are you saying that the power of the signal sent by the mx has an influence or detrermines the signal strength that the connecting block in turn sends to the emitters? For some reason I assumed the block resent in its own strength a copy of whatever input it received.

Thanks

Try flipping the IR sensors upside down. I also used white electrical tape and working fine. Using Xantech IR and a OLD Pronto 1000.

What do you use white electrical tape for? Where, etc.? You mean flip the IR receiver upside down? I am using the Dinky Link if tha helps at all.

Thanks

What do you use white electrical tape for? Where, etc.? You mean flip the IR receiver upside down? I am using the Dinky Link if that helps at all.

Thanks

I put a piece of masking tape over the receiver 9dinky link) for the AV rack system window and so far, after a lot of testing, it works like a charm. Thanks to all for your advice and time.

Always more to learn!

I'm using a Spacer system and an MX-950 w/ an MSC-300. I used the IR codes in the software and I get excellent results w/ IR. RF kicked me around for a while due to a problem w/ an RJ45 connector, but that's a REALLY long story.

I would try just running one emitter to the middle dimmer. Lutron's emitters work for up to two dimmers in each direction.

How are you implementing the 5WC? I'm using one also, but it's mounted in a seperate box on the other side of the room. I installed a 14/2 "carrier" wire, per Lutron's instructions, which is connected to the 5WC and then to one of the two IR emitters they provided. The emitter is located on dimmer #3 in my 4 dimmer gang box.

Since your 5WC is mounted in the same box, did you use a very short carrier wire? I don't remember, but maybe the 5WC shoots directly to the other dimmers. If that's the case, then I would just run an emitter to the 5WC and let it shoot the other dimmers. That way you just have one IR source for the setup, instead of potentially three (the 5WC and the other two emitters).

Good Luck,

John

John,
It sounds like you are using the 5WC R which is made for controlling remotely located dimmers from the control unit. It is kind of a different animal. The 5WC (what I have) is for all units being colocated in the same gang box. So I don't have Lutron emitters to work with but the garden variety.

I used two because one wasn't doing the job at first.

You are correct. That explains a lot.

Did you ever get it resolved?

John

Yes I did. I put one emitter in a similar place as the locations recommended for the 5 WC R emitters, at the top or above, the switches. I placed one stuck to the top of the gang box just above 2 of the switches.

I guess maybe the 5 WC does not send any IR unless it's buttons are pushed. I thought that it would receive IR and resend down the line but I have doubts about that now.

All is well till next week when I switch one of these to a three way and add a second switch outside the room to turn on one that circuit before you get into the room!!