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MRF-260 Troubleshooting Help Needed
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OP | Post 16 made on Sunday April 27, 2008 at 20:23
Guyster 810
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Bear with me while I splash around since I'm not exactly sure what you're getting toward. I programmed the RF Settings to IR and downloaded to the remote. The devices did not work when the 810 was pointed at them, nor did the 260.

I changed the RF Settings back to IR and RF and downloaded to the remote. The remote worked fine after that.

Is that the information that you are seeking?
Post 17 made on Sunday April 27, 2008 at 21:56
BobL
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If the remote works fine then call it a day!

It is recommended to get the remote working IR only first. Then add the MRF-260 and change the setting to RF. This ensures that the problem is not with the remote or any of the codes. Once the remote is working IR then add the 260 and change the devices to RF. This makes it is easier to diagnose RF, flasher placement, flasher strength, etc. problems. You add a lot of variables by not making the remote work IR only first. Also, the remote might not work IR if the flashers are blocking the component's sensor.

Usually, I'd change the settings to IR and flashers to all. After the remote is working IR then I add the 260 to the system and set the appropriate devices to RF and the corresponding line # and test it again. I don't usually use the IR and RF setting because that will sometimes confuse components if they get the same code from the remote and the 260 or the code might respond twice. There are times when there might be mixed codes on a device that has 2 components associated with it and the IR and RF setting may apply. Usually, I try to avoid that situation.

Again, this is for info only. If the remote works call it a day!

Bob
OP | Post 18 made on Sunday April 27, 2008 at 23:24
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On April 27, 2008 at 21:56, BobL said...
If the remote works fine then call it a day!

Bob, Not to go in circles, but: The remote works fine, true, but not in IR setting and not with the 260. It works fine when set to RF and pointed directly at the devices. In hindsight, when I did the IR tests above per your instruction, I didn't think about the flashers blocking the component's sensors, so maybe I'll try that again and see.

If you're not too frustrated with me yet, can you give me a quick lesson on IR and RF? I'm a bit confused because I thought (perhaps incorrectly) that a device was either IR or RF - not both. So, when my remote failed to operate the devices in IR mode, I figured it was because they were RF devices. Remember, I'm a newbie...
Post 19 made on Monday April 28, 2008 at 03:31
Tom Ciaramitaro
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Something is goofy.

As Bob mentioned, you leave the remote in IR mode, or IR and RF mode and leave the 260 unplugged. This allows you to troubleshoot your IR codes and make sure the remote is properly communicating line of sight with all your devices.

Once you have verified proper line of sight operation, then change the base station to 3 and make sure you change the remote to 3 in software. Be sure RF is the mode of operation.

I can't figure out why it would work line of sight in RF mode and thru the base in IR mode. Double check to make sure it is in fact the case.

In many applications you can leave the remote in IR & RF mode because the components are behind doors or somewhere else. If it works this way for you then don't look a gift horse in the mouth!
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Post 20 made on Monday April 28, 2008 at 07:04
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It might work with RF if the 260's blaster was on.

Anyway, all devices are IR! OK, almost there are some RF devices but no remote (by any company) made to date can learn RF commands. The 810 only knows IR commands, it uses RF to send IR commands to the 260. The 260 then sends the IR commands to the device via the flashers.

This is why we typically get the remote working IR before adding RF to the mix.

Bob
OP | Post 21 made on Monday April 28, 2008 at 10:58
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On April 28, 2008 at 03:31, Tom Ciaramitaro said...
Something is goofy.

That "something goofy" is probably ME, but I'm grateful y'all are willing to help me through.
As Bob mentioned, you leave the remote in IR mode, or
IR and RF mode and leave the 260 unplugged. This allows
you to troubleshoot your IR codes and make sure the remote
is properly communicating line of sight with all your
devices.

Bob and Tom: I need to confirm the IR thing again. I could SWEAR that I had the remote set to IR using ProWizard, 260 unplugged, door open (gear is in closet), and NOTHING. Then changed back to IR and RF, 260 unplugged, door open, and it worked. But I will redo the test and check back.

As for a "gift horse," the only thing working is the remote in IR / RF mode (haven't tried RF only), 260 plugged or unplugged, with the closet door open so the remote is in line of site. Not a gift horse, I'm afraid. I'm ready to cut out the door panel and put in a fabric screen - TACKY!

Will message back tonight or tomorrow when I've run more tests. Thanks again!
OP | Post 22 made on Thursday May 29, 2008 at 21:14
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Hi Bob and Tom,

Well, I exchanged the MRF-260 and it works fine now. I'm wondering if the unit was actually defective because I did the IR test on my remote and this time it worked. Remember, the IR setting did not work on my remote, only IR & RF.

Nonetheless, I shall not look a gift horse in the mouth. Starting over with a fresh base - or a fresh programming of the 810? - seems to be working.

One thing that's odd is that this base was much better packaged than the last one. I think I bought a refurb without knowing. Hmmm.

Thanks guys!
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