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MX810: deleting the "Button from Hell"
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Post 1 made on Tuesday April 1, 2008 at 21:05
Spoffo
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This started off as a cry for help, but as I was writing it, I stumbled on the answer. However, I thought I should share what I learned, since it drove me crazy for about an hour.

The Problem: While refining the program on my 810, I accidentally created a new activity when I meant to edit an existing one. And, in so doing, a button with icon was created on page 2 of my activities, thus messing up what had been a nice clean setup with only one activities page.

After a small amount of bashing about, I was able to (seemingly) delete this bogus activity, in that it disappeared from the listing of Activity Macros in the Wizard. Likewise, when I drilled down in "Customize" to the level where you can edit activities buttons, it looked like I was back to seeing only the original six activities buttons on page 1.

However, the remote itself continued to display the bogus button, as did the browser. In the Browser, I was able to delete the name on this button, and all the steps in the macro except a truncated first step that said "1. Display page one of " (blank) but there was no way to get rid of the button itself.

I tried all sorts of clever workarounds to fool the software - - e.g. go into "customize" and move a couple of good buttons from page 1 into the position where the bogus button was hiding on page 2, in hopes the good button data would over-write bogus one. No such luck. When uploaded to the remote (or examined in the Browser) the good buttons had indeed been moved into the position formerly occupied by the bogus one, but the bogus one had, all on its own, squirted over to occupy one of the now-unoccupied slots on page 1. Truly, a button from hell with a mind of its own.

The Fix: Just before losing my mind, I noticed that the very first activities page in the Wizard - - the one that gives you the list of possible activities to add or edit - - contained a new item: "Edit " (blank) Aha! This must be the button from hell. Maybe I can just check it and hit "delete". I tried that several times with no result. It would vanish from the list, but when I went to the browser there was no change, and when I went back to the activities list, "Edit " (blank) had reappeared.

Finally, on a whim, I tired deleting it from the list and then clicking "next" before doing anything else. This time, when I checked the browser, the button from hell was gone! It was gone everywhere. Things were back to my nice, clean one-page set of activities.

The Lesson: Certain settings in the Wizard software only take effect when you click "next." (Exactly which ones is URC's little secret.) Even though changes appear to have taken effect (e.g. you've clicked "delete" and an activity has disappeared from the list) this is only a kind of "draft" state, and the change will be lost of you back up via the "previous" or "Main Menu" buttons. After making the change, you have to "set" it by clicking "next."

I have a feeling I ran into this some time before and forgot it. It took this miserable hour to burn it into my brain.

Now you know.
Post 2 made on Wednesday April 2, 2008 at 02:41
Chuck_IV
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Tagging this cause I had the same problem. iI ended up rebuilding my whole setup :(

Nice find.
Post 3 made on Wednesday April 2, 2008 at 09:40
aham23
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you must always hit next to make the choices on the current screen saved.

took me a bit to figure it out too.

later.
Post 4 made on Wednesday April 9, 2008 at 09:12
Charles Ledbetter
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I got caught up by this one too. You'd think that clicking "Save" after deleting the button would really mean "save." It doesn't...

-Charles
Post 5 made on Wednesday April 9, 2008 at 17:03
jackie pop1
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I have the mx980 and I deleted my 3 fully configured watch pages! When I did my heart stop beating for a while. When I found out it was lost for real, I almost cryed.

I decided to re-program the whole thing and it took me 6 hours to get back at case one. I tough I was the only one, I'm kind of glad to see that it's not the case.

But I understand and feel your pain.

Jack

Last edited by jackie pop1 on April 9, 2008 18:48.


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