I took a look at the database "codeset" and those look like the UEI (who supplied the database) One-For-All setup codes + 27. For example, OFA's TV/0000 (codeset 0027) is the main setup code for Sony's North American displays ( TV's, Plasma's). OFA's TV/0011 (codeset 0038) is for Sony UK TV's with teletext. This sort of offset (the actual number varies)is pretty common when UEI supplies OEM remotes.

The problem seems to be that they are in numerical order, rather than the most likely codeset being first. In Sony TV that works out, but in Sony VCR the first codeset is for a Zenith VCR that must have been an obscure rebadge by Sony or a mistake.

As most of you already know most IR commands are the same for all units of the same type made by the manufacturer. Many of those alternative codes are for gear that is over 10 years old. The older alternatives are frequently listed first in the pulldown menu, because in OFA remotes the setup codes have remained the same and the older ones tend to have lower numbers.

The reason I mention this is with all the problems of getting PENG to convert other learned commands, these may actually help solve a problem. Someone was recently having problems learning x10 commands and the database has them under Home|x10. There also appear to be discrete commands in that database.

It would be interesting to test these commands where people are encountering problems. I also think it is possible that UEI's database commands may be generated in UEI hardware. If so they tend to be very accurate about reproducing the IR signals.

There is a pretty good collection of OFA setup codes at Rob Crowe's website [Link: hifi-remote.com] and, in a cursory look, seem to be prioritized by likelihood of working at least for the most popular setup codes. Add 27 to them and try the first one listed by manufacturer.

The last question is whether the "test IR" button works reliably in PENG with the cable connected to the PC. IIRC, in the previous ProntoEdit/Pronto's it was not. However, if that did work in PENG it would make the database commands far more useful.

This message was edited by jarmstrong on 08/08/04 13:04.