allthough i know that technically is the full command i need to know how to do it using pronto edit NG. Amazingly someone from philips walked me through it once. but since then i think he was fired for being TO helpfull so here i sit at you guys mercy. the commands in question are LINN commands which i need to convert them all over to IR commands that i can use( meaning finally get to CCF format). if anybody can help i would appreciate it.