Jon, I wasn't tring to say that anyone who couldn't learn their codes was an idiot. There are 3 codes on my panasonic remote "program director" that I couldn't learn. I was able to use the pre-programmed code. I tried many ways of learning though with much furstration until I accidentaly did it like stated above. Before the Neo was capable of uploading when we had to relearn all our code, I code learn 7 entire remote with this single method. While some remotes might require more effort, I believed that the success I had with it warrented passing the info along to others. I have on several occasions. I don't question that the Neo doesn't learn as well as a TSU2000, or won't learn Lutron dimmers. But did you try the method described on your other remotes before determining I was misinformed?