Thanks for the reply chief!!!!

It would seem there aren't any discretes. I work for a huge retail chain in Australia .... my manager has some pretty good pull over these suppliers and even they won't help, they just keep passing him onto other people in their respective companies.

To us it would seem such obvious commands to include ..... hey, they have discretes for inputs, although that seemed to have taken a while for them to do, or either that no-one knew a while ago how to discover them.

Thanks again.