The new Denon 3803 does indeed have separate power status for Zone 2 as does the new Yamaha RXV-2300. Rotel does as well, but Zone 2 uses the same input commands as Zone 1 which pretty much necessitates a keypad hooked up to its Zone 2 IR in or manually selecting the Zone 2 source from the front panel. Rotel's Zone 2 is also independant of the Record Out selection controls, so technically, it could be used as a 3 Zone system. Of the three, only Denon can run 5.1 surround PLUS a stereo second zone without the use of any additional power amps.