Munson, some years ago I had marginal success (depending on the surroundig terrain ). With running an old 2 conducter twisted pair up to the attic. Then running around the entire perimeter. about 2 to 3 times. Sometimes combining the two Ideals together ( Larry's and this one) works. The important thing to remember is AM hates the gear its around. So get it up in the attic if possible then experiment..