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Post 62 made on Monday March 1, 2004 at 22:10
rhm9
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Thanks for the well thought out responses. We actually employ a lot of the tactics you mention. Our motto is that we want to save the world from bad system design... one client at a time. We have a number of fine custom builders that will use only us and 4 different electricians that we use. We are general contractors so it is legal for us to subcontract an electrician (in this state... if you don't carry the extra insurance, bond etc to be a general contractor you CAN NOT legally sub an electrician). We have been able to insert our electricians into jobs now that our credibility is there.

We have a bright side to our business... actually a lot of bright sides. It just doesn't seem as fun to me to laud our accomplishments as it does to vent frustrations sarcastically and anonymously.

Basically, around here, a builder can be a great ally or a shopper. The frustration is that these guys build fantastic houses with amazing finish work and they leave the wiring to a rookie. We recently re-ran all of the cable in a 2+ million dollar manse because sparky had hammered all of it flat with romex staples. We won't stop trying to educate (and you KNOW we took pictures... provided pieces of cable and contacted the builder). When we do find a f----d one we employ some of the tactics you mentioned but try not to be adversarial. In the end we can only hope for the best.

By the way... we recently participated in the 2004 Seattle Home Show. We presented a beautiful OnQ panel with a plexi door and our logo screened on. Beside it were pics of some of the crap we've run into and examples of battered and twisted cable next to the line "you wouldn't put up with this kind of finish work on your kitchen countertops... why put up with it in your wiring enclosure"... opened a lot of eyes and had a lot of people looking at the s----y ones and saying "yep...thats what mine looks like".


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