Ok, Im not looking for a bad reputation, so if my shot back was too harsh I apoligize. I was just looking for a rough guesstimate as stated and got answers of "impossible question to answer". It is possible to guess all day long, impossible to be dead nuts with the info I provided yes, it is more complicated then I mentioned, but come on, we all pretty much now how long certain install activities take on an average. I emailed pics to a couple of you, and if anyone else would like to see the "stapled wire job" just let me know