On May 2, 2007 at 05:43, Michael Braithwaite said...
I want to say 1st that I do like the versatility and technology of IP based systems and if your not wiring or up to speed than things are going to get difficult. However I still have yet to see where it fits in my overall business. It is to expensive for the 4 zone customer, that's a general statement. Once I get up above that with customers the system is always much more complex and at this point I can't afford to get land locked by closed ended systems.
In our Vision we feel that all installed speaker will
migrate from passive analog speakers to active all digital
networked speakers.
Ok even though I already know the facts about speakers please explain to me what an all "digital" networked speaker is. You know what never mind I don't really want to hear it.
As far as amplifiers at NetStreams, all of our amplifiers
are designed to go with the speaker, or at least as close
to the speaker as possible. If you have heard a demo
of the Polk 265ip, or any of the demo’s with our system
utilizing our DSP’s for all filter arraignments and optimization
I think you will find that not only do we produce a better
frequency response, dynamic range, channel separation,
and signal to noise ratio, but the overall imaging, staging
and accuracy is night and day different, this is not possible
with a central “Rack Mounted” amplifier located hundreds
of feet from the speakers.
Some to our Lab located at 3600 W. Parmer Lane in Austin,
or ask your NetStreams Rep to bring a demo to your office.
If you choose not to mount the amplifier by the speaker
you are not going to achieve the kinds of acoustic performance
that your customers want.
Ok this is where you lose me not only is the above statement misleading in practical application it just isn't true. Is there a difference, yes on a scope or on a bench using the 2 different wiring schemes with a long distance and a controlled enviroment. Now lets use the same exact test in an installed system with inwall speakers and see if you can actually hear an audible difference. This is really the only thing about mfg's in general that pisses me off. I see the merit and also appreciate the design and versatility of your system, but please don't try and make these kinds of statements when I have at least as many years in this business as you and I am the one installing them. When your system was demonstrated to us we all really loved the product and were excited, but when the NetStreams rep told us we lose about 90% of our amplification and fidelity on a 100' speaker run, well that did it.
We are not perfect, but we do correct any issues that
are found, we are fast to do this. I have read many times
about how great Crestron products are, and they do have
some great solution and they have some very good people,
I know most all of them personally, but to say that NetStreams
is the only advanced system that needs updates and our
Dealer setup is updated often is a little bit of a stretch.
Any complex networked system utilizes hundreds of protocols
and lots of lines of code. Crestron as well as most every
control company has engineers that are constantly and
consistently making improvements and this means updates,
every good system out there has the ability to use such
a scaleable system such as DigiLinX. Crestron produces
updates to Simpl, VTPro, and firmware on a weekly and
sometimes daily basis so stating that we are working to
make the system even better or fixing a new bug will be
an ongoing issue as we are always looking to improve our
products.
I agree with you here there isn't any of the higher end products that don't need firmware/software upgrades.
Anyone that has ANY issues with sound quality or performance
should make plans to attend CEDIA this year in Denver.
Come over to our booth and audition for yourself, the
power of all Digital distribution, DSP filters performed
all in the digital realm. We will demonstrate the difference
between a central amplifier and our Distributed approach.
We will A/B the same speakers and you can judge for yourself.
One more thing before I step down from the soapbox, NetStreams
is a company full of people from THE CUSTOM INSTALLATION
industry. We have some of the best and brightest from
many companies such as Lexicon, Crestron, Pioneer, Sony,
Kenwood, Sonance, Apple, GE, Dell, Intel, Texas Instruments,
and Cisco. The people we have are from this industry,
live and breathe this industry because we love what we
are doing and yes we do want to save the world from bad
audio.
"Bad Audio" who do you guys think are listening to this stuff. I think we can agree your distributed or all the others are not designed as main or critical listening area systems
NetStreams is here for you, we have a very good group
of techs in our technical services group that can help
you with any issue you may have at
[email protected]If you have an issue with any of our products and you
feel you have not been helped out please contact me with
your issue at
[email protected] and I assure
you I will track down the problem and get you with the
right people.
Best Regards,
Michael Braithwaite
NetStreams
The above statements are really what make a difference for most of us since when we do hit a wall, support is everything! Also it means lots to me that you take the time to get involved!
