Do you know how to do KeyMoves for EFC numbers on the 8811? (If not, someone will post a link to those instructions).

All commands in the 6131's TV/1454 can be produced using EFC number KeyMoves in TV/0054.

EFC Command
191 Up
223 Down
095 Left
255 Right
031 Select
190 Pip
126 Swap
127 Menu (so I don't know why the built-in 0054 menu would work)

I think the rest of the commands are the same between 0054 and 1454.

I would expect some problems using learned signals for those arrow keys. I wouldn't expect the problems you described and can't explain them. But no improved learning method will ever get them right, while EFC KeyMoves easily get them right.

I looked in my large collection of IR signals and found many Philips TV's that fit 1454 better than they fit 0054, and probably the advanced codes from those TVs that aren't in either setup code match missing advanced codes for your TV (so don't use learning on for this TV, ask for any missing functions). But you can't directly use the EFC numbers for TV/1454 advanced codes in TV/0054. Both setup codes can produce exactly the same set of possible signals via EFC numbers but they don't use the same EFC number, so any EFC number for 1454 must be translated for use with 0054 (as I did already for the list above).

I also found lots of Philips TVs that are closer to 0054 than to 1454 and several Magnavox TVs that are closer to 0054. I found no Magnavox TVs closer to 1454, but that just means I don't have data on your model.

This message was edited by johnsfine on 01/20/05 16:01 ET.