....oooops, forgot latest from sony is sas-a50d, which is exactly the same as the sony sas-ad4, both have state of the art digital processors , and AC-3 outputs....i guess for right now this is the hi-end of satellite receivers....the hughes E-45, might give it a run though....we'll see....we have both in stock......also you may e mail me anytime for info at [email protected], or call my offices at 617 394-9192....ask for me billy c or richie my partner.....i dont check these threads much, guess today i got carried away...hahahaha...o well...