Sorry to continue but is ther anyway I can continue to try and set this up along the similar lines as the Marantz RC5400 (although these are different manufactures ) or am I in a quick sand scenario with this one and should just give it away or better still sell it. Cosmetically it looks nice though and I only need it it for 4 ops ie sat receiver/amp tv and other tv when required. very annoyed that this is the only remedy though. Anyway, thanks for your help and honest answer before I try to progress along this line of getting frustrated with myself!