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Post 80 made on Thursday September 6, 2018 at 21:19
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On September 6, 2018 at 11:49, Ernie Gilman said...
But before you introduce the circuit and time, you have energy. In the world of physics, things are perfect, so charged batteries don't lose their charge. In that world, what is the amount of time of a charged battery? How can you relate time to the charge of a battery AT ALL? The question itself is ludicrous. You can't say a charged battery is, or has, two minutes, or twenty minutes, or any amount of time associated with it.

You must, however, relate time to the charging and discharging of a battery. Those are functions of power, since energy is moved over some period of time.

This is EXACTLY what you're not seeing. Energy is totally separated from time. Energy per second, which is energy with a time element introduced, is power. You're right about that, but somehow you equate energy over time with energy itself.

But you keep saying it wrong. Don't agree with me. Agree with physics.

Time can pass without movement but movement can’t occur without time being involved. Power is measured or calculated, energy is constant if no losses occur and in that case, the lost energy is changed to heat. Energy minus its losses always balances. I’m not arguing against the idea that power has a relationship with time but you’re denying the relationship between energy and time and the argument about a charged battery is flawed- it didn’t become charged instantaneously, nor can it discharge instantaneously. I’m also not saying energy can’t exist in a static state.
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