Thanks for that keaster.I am in Milton,but in a bad spot,4th floor apartment bldg. at back facing escarpment,front to Toronto.Most of my reception is from bounces off buildings,if that makes sense.I seemed to have better ch.9 when I had a 1/2 inch copper pipe halfed at 24 inches on my rotor on the balcony.Would adding the 1/2 pipe to the vhf 3/8" make any difference?Is Bell still pulling the plug on ota in Aug.?