I have ripped out way too many Elan systems that required a complete start over because the client wanted one little upgrade or the software wasnt supported anymore. I could never sell it.

Sadly, that notion (as well as the early days and what I perceived as very poor remotes and klunky on TV interfaces) have kept me away from C4 as well. I am hearing more and more positives about it lately and feel like I should look at it. There is definitely an automation gap for us right now. How is everyone liking C4? Also, I dont deal with AVAD so if you have a C4 rep in So Cal you want to send my way, Id be greatful.

I thought about Savant too but I just cant. Their corporate swings seem like warning signs. Another NetStreams.