Have been a dealer for almost 5 years. Several more bad processors, touchscreens, and remotes than I have had to deal with in almost 10 years of working with Crestron. It seems like C4 is also willing to open anyone with a pulse and a $1000 opening order in my market, so there is a lot of competition that is willing to discount it or sell 5000 square feet of it with an AirPort Extreme to run it. I have done a half dozen five figure cleanups of C4 jobs in the last 2 years, which is fine and nice to be the hero to the client, but I would have much preferred to take the whole six figures of the original project.