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Post 3 made on Saturday June 28, 2014 at 20:06
SysIntegration
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On June 22, 2014 at 16:56, Barf said...
SysIntegration,

I am happy that you have discovered IrScrutinizer (I am the author), but I am also a bit sad to see how little of its capacities you have discovered. IrScrutinizer replaces, among others, makehex and IrPanels.

You describe a very tedious and error prone procedure consisting of many steps and many tools, which are not very good at communicating with each other. Fortunately, it can be done much easier, using only IrScrutinizer (and some supplementing hardware, or the Pronto).

So here is, leaving out details, how to do it, the IrScrutinizer version.

0. Get some supported capturing hardware, e.g. GlobalCache, IrWidget, IrToy, or Arduino, and make sure it works, and open the device.

1. Select the "Scrutinize remote" pane, "Parametric Remote" subpane. Press capture. Assuming that the hardware works, you can now just "shoot" the buttons of the OEM remote at the sensor. As opposed to other capturing programs, you just fire them one after another (remembering the ordering!) without having to "multiplex" you hands between the remote, the mouse, and the keyboard. If desired, fill in the names of the commands just captured.

If you have some working sending hardware, you can try the signals just captured by selecting the signal, pressing the right mouse button, and selecting "Transmit selected".

8. If you like to search for functionality on the other possible signals, that where not on thte keys on your OEM remote, this is how to do it: Select one signal having the "interesting" D and S parameter. Press the right mouse button, in the popup menu select Advanced -> Add missing F's. This will generate all the "missing" signals. Assuming the access of suitable hardware, these can be tried one after another by pressing the right mouse button and selecting "Transmit selected". The column "Comment", "Name" and "Ver." can be used to electronically take notes of the outcome.

9. Add comments, fix up than names etc in the table. Then the table can be exported to a number of different formats. If intending to post to RC, the export format "text" is probably suitable, ticking the CCF and the Parameters checkboxes in the "Export" pane.

If no suitable capturing hardware is available, but a Pronto (Classic) instead, the signals of the OEM remote (or a subset of them) can be captured by the Pronto, and saved to a CCF file. This CCF file can be imported directly by IrScrutinizer (Import -> Pronto Classic) into the "Scrutinize remote" table.

If no suitable sending hardware, but a Pronto (Classic) is available, the table (for example augmented by the "missing" signals) can be exported to another CCF file (Pane Export), and the testing of the missing signals carried out by using the Pronto.

If you want to generate a table, like in the steps 4 and 5, IrScrutinizer does with with the "Generate" pane, in conjunction with the Export.

Note that I just (day before yesterday) released a new version, 1.1.0, see [Link: harctoolbox.org] .

Note that IrScrutinizer has advanced features for importing Ir signals, also from rather unstructured texts, like an RC posting. Often, you can just copy a whole thread to the clipboard, select Import -> Text -> Raw, line based (e.g.) and press "Load from Clipboard"

Or make friends with IrScrutinizer :-)

Bug reports and suggestions for improvements are welcome.

Barf,

Thank you for weighing in on this. I pieced my way through learning how IRS works by reading various posts on RC, mostly by 3FG. I only really ended up at JP1 because of a x-post asking for a codes I had from a Pana Plasma from Vicky G.

Did I miss the IRS manual or how-to guide somewhere? I can see from your notes above how powerful the program can be. I've dug a little into it before, but I am really excited to see its power now. Is this guide posted somewhere over at JP1?

Thank you for the time making IRS and for stepping in and giving me a personalized how-to lesson. You're awesome. IRS saves me all of the time, especially when dealing with working with IRL2 and a certain single letter software (here's a hint, it's the 7th letter of the alphabet), as it can learn codes with its hardware/software about as well as I can learn codes with my eyes, staring directly into an infrared transmitter.

I'm going to find it hard to let go of my pronto, if for no other reason than I can capture a code with nothing more than a device slightly larger than my phone, but I would love to see what else IRS can do with the proper send/receive hardware.  Thanks again for unifying all the random programs out there. 
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