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Post 5 made on Wednesday June 18, 2014 at 21:08
SysIntegration
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On June 18, 2014 at 14:21, Grandmaster Sen said...
You, like a lot of jerks who think they are witty by remarking about the search function seriously overestimate and overemphasize how good search engines are, especially rudimentary and typical in-site searches which require exact keyword matches. There are no results for said model. I did in fact, later, find a list from a link within a link to a set of codes of another model that worked. But don't play the Internet Badass. If you don't have anything helpful to post, don't post. You could have just linked your result.

Seriously. Something is wrong with you.

No my friend. Something is wrong with you. Clearly you don't understand (a) how to communicate with people on a forum (b) be respectful of other people's time (c) have any idea how to find / generate hex codes (d) understand even rudimentarily how IRP works (e) how to think outside the box enough to understand that similar model numbers usually have the same IRP code set.

So let me help you.

(a) I don't run this forum. You are brand new member asking for a lot without even trying to look for yourself. The point is to try and give as much as you take. I bet if you torrent (legally of course) that you don't seed back.

(b) do you have any idea how long it took to get these codes??? Much less how long it took to get these codes and put them in a pretty way for you to copy/paste?

(c) More on this later

(d) There are several different varieties of how an IR device sends the wavelength of signal to an IR receiver. The main one is NEC. Within that general variety, there are different "devices" or code sets. This is why when you pick up your TV remote, your receiver doesn't turn on. Or why you can program remotes to have different remote sets (like a directv box) so that if you have a bunch of the same gear stacked, only one responds to the remote. Finally, there are different objects within the device code set. This is why when you press channel up, your TV doesn't change inputs and etc. I realize this is a very basic explanation, but I am going to assume based on your ridiculous tone that you are not someone in the industry and are likely someone with a DIY kit and an android phone?

(e) Code sets don't change much. Therefore, I can likely guess that If I have a Denon AVR-1913, but I can only find codes for an AVR-1912 that they might just might work. There isn't any harm in trying.

I posted a link to all the codes you are going to need. And I don't use the search engines. I spend time going through the posts on by one. You might notice my name frequently. I don't play internet bad ass. The codes you found and you used (with the exception of the alt codes) were found, generated, and posted by me.

So because you have no idea the amount of time this took, let me explain it you.

1. On my day off, I walk into my local big box store. I am looking for a remote, but BB doesn't keep remotes on display anymore. So I drive across town to the nearest sears who actually has remotes on display. I am carrying a pad of paper, a stylus, and pronto TS1000. Using the OEM remote, I fire a series of codes into my pronto, learning them on the spot.

2. I go out to my car and fire up my laptop. I connect my keyspan usb to serial, configure the ports, and fire up Pronto edit which runs like crap on 64 bit windows. I upload the file from my pronto (including the codes I just learned).

3. I go through button by button in pronto edit, and do about 3-4 button clicks to finally see the hex codes I just learned. Then I fire up IRScrutinizer. I copy and paste each code I have learned to make sure they all have the same protocol and device number. On my note pad, I right down the object number for the codes I have learned. Keep in mind, I am in a cramped car, and it is raining outside.

4. Knowing the protocol and device number, I fire up makehex on my laptop and edit the .txt file to reflect my device number. I drag and drop to generate the entire code set into another txt file.

5. I now have a .txt file with all 255 possible commands that this TV might accept. However, I don't know what each one does, nor do I have an immediate way to take a .txt file and use it at a TV.

6. I fire up IRPanels on my laptop. I copy/paste the txt file I generate above to generate a CCF file (pronto format).

7. Back to ProntoEdit where I open the file I just generated, downloading it back into the pronto.

8. Back into sears with a pad of paper, a stylus, a pen, and the pronto. I then painstakingly fire each of the 255 possible codes at every TV listed on my list. INDIVIDUALLY. And I right down what each command does or how the TV responds to it.

9. Then I come home and type all of this into a pretty file that later gets copy/pasted onto this website for you to come gripe about.

Why don't you run along to Sharp's dealer portal and find their list of discrete hex codes. Oh wait...it doesn't exist. My list does, though. And it works.

You know what I got out of this? Nothing. I got the art of learning, exploring, and spending my entire Sunday doing something you couldn't even bother to whisper a thank you for. I didn't get paid. I don't even get a heads up from the literal hundreds of views that appear on my posts. At least I have enough self respect to not be an arrogant jerk.

The truth is, something is wrong with you. Next time you go ranting on a forum, maybe you should look into what it actually takes to do these things. It's not like there is a unified manual out there. The pieces and tools are there, but this is the first post I am aware of that combines all the pieces and steps into one. I have given you a literal step by step method for find discrete codes from an OEM remote knowing nothing other than that the device accepts IR signals. Your welcome.
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