cgav and Mario, no matter what you say they are right and you are wrong. Your comparisons are perfectly legit but when you have blinders on you don't see it, you only see what you want to see.

This ultimately is URC's own fault. If you started out including the software or allowing dealers to give the software you need to continue. Saying it's up to the dealer is just plain stupid. Either it's available to the public or it's not period.

Personally I don't care because I make good money fixing consumer programmed URC remotes.